Episode 8, released August 18, 2016, brings Marlon Dow back for his second appearance, and the man comes prepared. The centerpiece is a deep, genuinely surprising dive into Miami Vice, the show that Marlon knows backwards and forwards, complete with trivia that will stump even devoted fans.
Around it, the guys geek out over the Rogue One trailer, Bobby reveals a past life you would never guess, and everyone gets honest about the parts of the old show that were actually a grind. It is a warm, funny, fact-packed hour.
What you’ll hear in this episode
- Remembering Kenny Baker, the man inside R2-D2, and full-on hype for the Star Wars spinoff Rogue One. [02:31]
- Bobby’s surprising past as a distance runner who finished the Philadelphia Marathon twice, the first time at 14. [06:00]
- Deep arcade nostalgia: beating Dragon’s Lair, conquering Donkey Kong, and the Punch-Out Pizza Pasta. [09:30]
- Marlon’s Miami Vice trivia and the show’s wild origins, from a network exec’s pitch to who almost played Sonny Crockett. [13:30]
- Show moment: the parts of the show they secretly dreaded, including the Saturday marathon tapings and one mandatory group dance. [21:30]
- A look back at everything that happened in 1989, from Love Shack to the premiere of The Simpsons. [25:35]
The Miami Vice segment turns up the single best piece of trivia in the episode, the network exec’s original one-line pitch for the whole show:
“I want to create a show that is basically MTV with badges.”
Marlon Dow, relaying the pitch for Miami Vice, [18:30]
And in a rare quiet moment, Bobby drops a genuinely jaw-dropping fact about his teenage years:
“When I was 14 years old, I ran it in… I think it was two hours and 40 minutes.”
Bobby, on the Philadelphia Marathon, [06:31]
With Marlon settling in as the third voice, this is the episode where the trio really clicks.
Three things we said in this episode
- [03:47] “I mean, even like think about the little things, all he could do was hop back and forth on foot to foot, or spin around, he did a really amazing job.” on Kenny Baker’s performance as R2-D2
- [08:17] “Wow. Yeah. See that, ladies and gents, right there? That was just something, we’re not scripted, it just comes right out.” on the podcast being unscripted
- [08:22] “But you know what else happened last week? I wanted to mention that Marlon Dow was part of the show, and he brought a lot to the table.” on welcoming Marlon to the show
Full transcript of Episode 8
[00:00] Speaker: Take a trip back in time, so strap yourselves in tight, it’s time for Bobby and Jason’s Awesome ’80s Podcast.
[00:12] Bobby: Hey now, scooby-dooby-doo, we are here live in Las Vegas on tape, let me make sure I said it, ’cause Jason will bust my balls.
[00:22] Jason: That’s right, it’s too easy.
[00:24] Bobby: This is Bobby and Jason’s Awesome ’80s Podcast, and what number are we here?
[00:27] Jason: We are number ocho.
[00:29] Bobby: Wow, numero ocho, number eight.
[00:30] Jason: Do you know how I know that? Do you remember that movie-
[00:34] Bobby: The Love Bug?
[00:35] Jason: The Love Bug, man, they used to call the little Volkswagen Ocho because it was a five and a three.
[00:40] Bobby: Oh man, I love that. Did you pull that one out of your ass?
[00:44] Jason: I just pulled that one straight out of my ass.
[00:46] Bobby: So anyway, we are here, and it’s hot as balls in Vegas, it’s about 112 outside.
[00:53] Bobby: Yeah man, just great, great time to be walking around and just dying.
[00:58] Jason: Oh please, like you, come on man, no, you give Casper a run for his money.
[01:00] Bobby: You know what we do in Vegas? We walk from one place to another with air conditioning, air-conditioned car to the air-conditioned strip.
[01:07] Jason: To the air-conditioned parking garage.
[01:10] Bobby: You ever go in the parking garages in Vegas? They’re like saunas.
[01:13] Jason: Yes, it’s horrific.
[01:15] Bobby: So let’s recap episode seven.
[01:18] Jason: Hold on, wait a second.
[01:19] Bobby: No, wait, wait, wait, I wanna tell you something.
[01:21] Jason: Okay, all right.
[01:23] Bobby: I’ve been glitch-free for at least three episodes, and I’m so proud of myself. Can I get a clap? Thank you very much.
[01:35] Jason: So, voila, oui oui, whoa-ho, le french fry.
[01:41] Bobby: What the hell?
[01:42] Jason: Le plume.
[01:42] Bobby: I love when there’s a pause. So, I noticed that Patty, our big fan of the show, she brought something up.
[01:54] Jason: I was gonna let that one fly by too.
[01:56] Bobby: Oh man, shit happens.
[01:58] Jason: So wait, come on man, you just can’t do that, some people don’t look that far into the comments.
[02:03] Bobby: Okay, so what happened? Spill the beans.
[02:05] Jason: I’ll spill the beans. Well, instead of, fringe benefits, like boots and jackets and stuff, Bobby went with the old French benefits, which, when you’re a teenager at the roller rink, the French benefits with a girl is pretty good.
[02:20] Bobby: But what if we were in France? Could I say French benefits?
[02:23] Jason: No, the French would not like us, that doesn’t work, that wouldn’t help in the least.
[02:26] Bobby: All right, well, it was very small, minor, just a small glitch.
[02:31] Jason: It’s like when you work at some place where they say, “This place has been accident free for like 100 days,” it doesn’t matter, someone stumps their toe, it just always comes back to haunt you.
[02:40] Jason: Well, it’s because you’re just so public about it.
[02:42] Bobby: Hey Patty, I don’t hate you, it’s all good.
[02:44] Jason: Oh, I love you, Patty, thanks babe.
[02:47] Bobby: So, something happened this past week, I just wanted to bring it up, you know I’m a big Star Wars fan, as you are, Jason. And we know that Kenny Baker, who plays R2-D2, he passed away, and it’s a sad moment, he really brought the life to R2.
[03:04] Jason: Yes, he did, I mean, it’s somebody you never got a chance to really see, but you saw, him and Anthony Daniels, who plays C-3PO.
[03:13] Bobby: Who I met one time.
[03:15] Jason: Oh yeah, I think I saw a picture, you gotta put that up.
[03:17] Bobby: Yeah, I will.
[03:17] Jason: The fact that you can’t see these actors, and they’re just basically wrapped in metal, but they evoke so much emotion.
[03:27] Bobby: Yes they did, and the relationship between C-3PO and R2 is legendary, I love how they interact in these films.
[03:36] Bobby: Even though R2 doesn’t say a word, the sounds say it all, he has different sounds for different emotions, and Kenny Baker, he did a great job, he really brought R2 to life.
[03:47] Jason: I mean, even think about the little things, all he could do was hop back and forth foot to foot, or spin around, he did a really amazing job.
[03:57] Bobby: So anyway, rest in peace, Kenny, you’re gonna live forever, those films are never gonna go away for generations, for years and decades and hundreds of years.
[04:08] Jason: I wonder if they’re gonna bury him in like an R2-D2 casket. How appropriate would that be?
[04:14] Bobby: It might be.
[04:15] Jason: Yeah, and how about that trailer for Rogue One?
[04:21] Bobby: Oh man, Rogue One is coming out December, and Jason and I will be there first night, cannot wait.
[04:28] Jason: It’s so cool that they’re expanding the whole universe, me and Bob really fangirled out on that, I’ll be honest with you.
[04:35] Bobby: We did. For those of you who don’t know, Rogue One takes place between episode three and episode four, so what’s gonna happen is we’re gonna see the return of Darth Vader.
[04:48] Jason: That’s right. See, now, I guess everybody out there didn’t realize it was also the awesome ’80s podcast, but the total nerd podcast too.
[04:56] Bobby: Exactly, so yeah, we’re really excited, I put the trailer on my Facebook, and man, it looks great, it looks like they’re bringing it back to the original type of episodes’ style.
[05:10] Jason: It looks epic is what it looks like.
[05:12] Bobby: It looks huge, and the ATs are in there, I love those walkers.
[05:15] Jason: Oh, that’s awesome, that’s amazing. Yeah, so I don’t know, watching that trailer, I think I saw it during the Olympics, have you been watching the Olympics at all?
[05:27] Bobby: Yeah, I’ve been watching some of the swimming, I see we’re kicking some ass in swimming.
[05:30] Jason: Yeah, well I also read today in the paper that Ryan Lochte, he just got held up at gunpoint down in Rio.
[05:38] Bobby: I heard they got robbed.
[05:39] Jason: Yeah, it was criminals that dressed up as cops that robbed him.
[05:46] Bobby: Yeah, and I think that’s Michael Phelps’s nemesis, right, they’ve been battling all these years, but they’re boys, they’re like roommates and whatnot.
[05:52] Jason: Yeah, no, I know they’re friends.
[05:54] Bobby: But I read that when they’re in the pool, there’s competing.
[05:57] Jason: It’d be like you and me, if I was winning every heat, you know-
[06:01] Bobby: He would stick that in my face, but we laugh about it later.
[06:04] Jason: Have you ever been to Rio?
[06:06] Bobby: I’ve never been to Rio, I’ve been to South America, but never to Rio, it looks great.
[06:10] Jason: It looks like it’s a lot of fun, but from everything I heard, I wouldn’t wanna swim in the water.
[06:14] Bobby: You know, I’m looking forward to the track and field, because when I was in high school, I ran track and field.
[06:19] Jason: Oh yeah, that’s right, didn’t you?
[06:19] Bobby: I ran the mile, I was a distance runner, and I stopped when I went to college, and I ran in college for a couple years, and then I left college and I stopped running, because man, I lost so much weight, I was so skinny.
[06:33] Jason: I remember.
[06:33] Bobby: And I looked like a toothpick, so I said, “You know what, this has gotta stop.”
[06:37] Jason: Well, what were some of the big events you ran?
[06:40] Bobby: I ran the Philadelphia Marathon two times.
[06:44] Jason: How far, how long?
[06:44] Bobby: It’s 26.1 miles.
[06:44] Jason: Holy shit.
[06:44] Bobby: I, when I was 14 years old, I ran it in, I think it was two hours and 40 minutes.
[06:59] Jason: I can’t even imagine, I can’t run for 10 minutes, it’s a big deal. And I mean, even though I’m older, you used to run, so for you to be able to run like that, you had to run every day, didn’t you?
[07:09] Bobby: Yeah, I was training, probably running 10 miles a day, seven days a week, and I was about 135 pounds. Just for an example, today I weigh 168 pounds, and if I started to run again, I’d probably drop down to 140 real quick.
[07:28] Jason: Oh, I don’t know if you could do all that now, we’re a little bit older, aren’t we?
[07:32] Bobby: No. But you know what I miss? I miss the competition, the days of the races, it was exciting.
[07:39] Jason: But what’s that like? You’re in a whole group of people, everybody’s pushing an elbow in each other, is everybody cool?
[07:44] Bobby: Well, nah, it’s not, it can get like that, but in a distance race there’s a lot of time, so you don’t get so much of that as you do maybe in a quarter mile or half a mile, where it’s really blazing.
[07:58] Jason: What goes through your mind in 26 miles?
[08:01] Bobby: Oh man, I don’t know, you’re just looking, there’s fans all along the route, they’re clapping, they’re handing you water, you just look ahead and try and keep the pace. I’m not sure what I was thinking at the time other than I just wanna finish.
[08:17] Jason: Wow. See that, ladies and gents, right there? That was just something, we’re not scripted, it just comes right out.
[08:22] Bobby: Nah man, I didn’t even know he was gonna bring it up. But you know what else happened last week? I wanted to mention that Marlon Dow was part of the show, and he brought a lot to the table, I thought it was great, and it was great having him with us.
[08:34] Jason: Well, just having Marlon there, it’s just, and he’s so knowledgeable.
[08:39] Bobby: He really is.
[08:39] Jason: He’s knowledgeable, but it’s just, when you talk to him, it’s like you and me talking, it feels like home. It just feels so, wow, this is great, and having Marlon was-
[08:48] Bobby: Yep. And Marlon’s gonna join us in the next couple segments, he’ll be in every show, and we’re always gonna have a moment with Marlon.
[08:56] Jason: A moment with Marlon.
[08:57] Bobby: We need to make a voiceover and play this sound, “A moment with Marlon.”
[09:01] Jason: I’m working on it, I got something up the sleeve.
[09:05] Bobby: We’re growing, we’re like a garage band.
[09:06] Jason: That’s exactly what we’re like. We are a garage band on tape.
[09:11] Jason: It’s like we’ve suddenly discovered Dad’s LSD records, as we’re going along, you know?
[09:16] Bobby: And just keep in mind, everybody who’s listening, you’re here in the beginning, so it can only get better.
[09:21] Jason: That’s right, you’ll remember us when we were geeky and wore those high tube socks, at the beginning of the show.
[09:28] Bobby: Bro, we’re always gonna be geeky, it’s not true. Oh, speaking of the socks, man, I put a picture, you saw it, right, in the arcade, do you see the tube socks with the colors?
[09:37] Jason: Oh, yeah.
[09:37] Bobby: And did you used to buy the six-pack?
[09:39] Jason: I not only bought those, but I bought those shorts too.
[09:42] Bobby: Yo bro, that picture of that kid, it’s not me, but that’s exactly how I looked, same shorts, same hair, same socks, man, spent hours in the arcade.
[09:52] Jason: Spent money on stuff like that, yeah, what kind of games was, like, what did you play?
[09:56] Jason: I liked the more complicated games, like one thing I was really really good at that I was so proud of was Dragon’s Lair, I could beat Dragon’s Lair, but once you beat it once then it was reversed, then I’d go reverse.
[10:09] Bobby: Oh wow, you did that.
[10:10] Jason: Yeah, I did it both ways.
[10:10] Bobby: I never got that far, but you know what I completed? Donkey Kong.
[10:13] Jason: Oh, wow.
[10:14] Bobby: Donkey Kong, but I spent so much money and so much time. Oh man, I love Donkey Kong, Pac-Man, I used to love Pole Position.
[10:22] Jason: Pole Position was great. What about the karate ones, you remember the karate ones?
[10:25] Bobby: Yes, those were, I was never really good at those, but I remember those.
[10:28] Jason: And what was the other one, Pizza Pasta, from that Punch-Out game, Pizza Pasta.
[10:36] Bobby: Pizza Pasta.
[10:37] Jason: That’s it, that’s a good, Bob, you did a good job with the accent there.
[10:39] Bobby: Oh, that’s a good, I wanna have a silly good throwing with my Pizza Pasta, come on. So yeah, thanks for that link you sent me to Groupon.
[10:50] Jason: There you go man, so what we’re gonna do is we’re gonna go to GameWorks down at Town Square, and we got like all day.
[10:59] Bobby: Yeah man, we’re gonna be getting our game on and getting our grub on.
[11:04] Jason: And maybe even have a couple beers, and who knows, maybe we’ll take some pictures and some Periscopes and stuff.
[11:08] Bobby: We’ll definitely get some behind-the-scenes stuff for the peeps.
[11:11] Jason: And speaking about stuff for the peeps, this is something that we’re being a little selfish about too, aren’t we?
[11:16] Bobby: Yeah, we are, we are. What are we being selfish about?
[11:19] Jason: Because I love having this guy on the show.
[11:21] Bobby: Oh, you’re talking about the one and only Marlon Dow.
[11:26] Jason: Buttons.
[11:27] Bobby: Hey, Buttons.
[11:28] Jason: Yeah, boyee.
[11:32] Bobby: My man.
[11:32] Jason: That’s right, how you doing?
[11:35] Marlon: I’m doing good, fellas, how are you?
[11:36] Bobby: We’re good, how are things back east? It’s hot, I heard.
[11:39] Marlon: It’s actually a combination of humidity and heat, so that’s like a bomb.
[11:44] Jason: So it’s the East Coast report right there.
[11:46] Bobby: You know what that is? That’s like living in soup.
[11:49] Jason: Well, let me tell you something, we don’t envy you, my friend.
[11:53] Bobby: We don’t. But it’s 112 here.
[11:56] Marlon: You say 112?
[11:57] Bobby: Yes, it’s balmy.
[11:59] Jason: Yeah, it’s comfortable.
[12:01] Marlon: I don’t wanna know what that feels like, but I guess I will in the future.
[12:04] Bobby: So bro, I wanted to ask you, how did you feel in last week’s episode, being your first, how did you feel?
[12:11] Marlon: Well, yeah, I was a bit nervous, but it was good nerves. I thought it was a good time, and, like I said, I just wish that I was sitting at that desk with you guys.
[12:25] Jason: Well, this is the next best thing.
[12:28] Bobby: Yeah, and you will be sitting in the studio in the near future, we know that.
[12:32] Jason: Absolutely, and you know what’s really cool for everybody out there listening is we’ve got Marlon up on video, so it’s like one of those futuristic things, we’re all sitting here, he’s sitting here.
[12:40] Bobby: Yeah, we’re seeing that cute face, Mr. Buttons himself, Buttons.
[12:44] Jason: We’re seeing him.
[12:47] Marlon: Buttons is in the house.
[12:50] Bobby: So Marlon, a little bit early in the show, Jason and I were talking about the new trailer for Star Wars Rogue One.
[12:58] Marlon: Yeah, I see that.
[12:58] Bobby: And did you get a chance to check that out?
[13:00] Marlon: Absolutely man, I’m super excited about this movie.
[13:04] Bobby: I am too, man, December cannot come fast enough.
[13:07] Jason: Especially that Darth Vader action there at the end.
[13:10] Bobby: Yeah man, Darth Vader’s gonna be back.
[13:13] Jason: Can you give me a little Darth Vader, Bob, come on.
[13:17] Bobby: Marlon, I am your father, and I’m coming to get you.
[13:23] Jason: Perfect, it’s got like almost that T-Rex sound right there.
[13:28] Bobby: Oh, T-Rex. Hey there, hey now.
[13:30] Jason: Hey now.
[13:32] Bobby: So Mar, what do you got on the table? I know I gave you some homework.
[13:38] Marlon: Yeah, okay, so I am probably in the top 10 biggest fans of Miami Vice. And Miami Vice was a TV show that started in 1984, ended in 1990, it set the stage for TV for the rest of TV’s days, it set the style, and there’s a lot of people that were on the show that are movie stars today, that got their first stab at TV back in the ’80s.
[14:13] Marlon: And so I got a list of actors that I want you to tell me which actor did not star on the show.
[14:24] Jason: Ooh, this is good, all right, I like this, I’m in trouble.
[14:27] Marlon: All right, so here we go, here’s my top 10, now you should know every actor that I say, so you’re not gonna be in the dark on who these actors are. Here we go, Stanley Tucci.
[14:47] Jason: Oh, I know Stanley Tucci, yeah, he’s great, he was on the show.
[14:51] Marlon: He, from Hunger Games fame, Stanley Tucci. Number two, John Leguizamo.
[14:58] Jason: Oh yeah.
[14:59] Bobby: He’s awesome.
[15:00] Marlon: Okay, number three, Liam Neeson.
[15:03] Bobby: Wow, love Liam, I’ll find you, and I’ll kill you, I love his voice.
[15:09] Marlon: Number four, the always talented Bruce Willis.
[15:15] Bobby: Wow, Bruce Willis, that’s interesting.
[15:17] Jason: Yippee ki-yay.
[15:23] Marlon: Okay, number five, Ving Rhames.
[15:26] Bobby: Wow, this is a great, great list of stars.
[15:30] Jason: It’s Pulp Fiction Ving, Ving Rhames.
[15:32] Marlon: Right, okay, number six, G. Gordon Liddy, do you remember him?
[15:37] Bobby: Of course, from Watergate, he’s great.
[15:41] Marlon: All right, and here’s another one, Julia Roberts.
[15:45] Bobby: Julia Roberts.
[15:47] Jason: Pretty woman.
[15:48] Bobby: Big star.
[15:49] Marlon: All right, and here comes number eight, Sheena Easton.
[15:53] Bobby: Sheena Easton, wow.
[15:55] Jason: Sugar walls.
[15:55] Bobby: That’s an interesting one on that list.
[15:57] Jason: She was on the show, I think I remember it.
[16:00] Marlon: Okay, and number nine, Melanie Griffith.
[16:04] Bobby: Melanie Griffith.
[16:05] Jason: This is ex-Mrs. Antonio Banderas.
[16:08] Bobby: The things that make you go hmm.
[16:11] Marlon: All right, and my last and final is Kurt Russell.
[16:16] Jason: Oh yeah, Kurt Russell, Tango and Cash, tons of stuff.
[16:19] Bobby: Escape From New York.
[16:20] Marlon: So I’m gonna start with Jason, and say which one of these fabulous actors did not star on Miami Vice?
[16:27] Jason: G. Gordon Liddy.
[16:29] Marlon: Okay, all right, Bobby.
[16:31] Bobby: I say Kurt Russell.
[16:35] Marlon: Okay, Jason, you are wrong, my friend.
[16:37] Jason: Oh, damn it!
[16:39] Bobby: Oh man, I’m so disappointed in you, Jason. You are right, my friend, holy shit. Do I get like a gold star sticker?
[16:48] Jason: How the hell does that happen?
[16:50] Bobby: I’m so talented, Captain Glitch.
[16:52] Jason: No, you’re the new Captain Glitch. Marlon, that was great, that was awesome.
[16:57] Bobby: Yo, you know what’s crazy, Marlon-
[16:58] Marlon: Now here’s the thing, you said G. Gordon Liddy as if he’s never acted before, probably. He’s a guy, he’s a Washington guy, he’s actually a Watergate guy too.
[17:08] Jason: Yeah, Watergate, that’s how I knew who he was.
[17:11] Marlon: Actually, G. Gordon Liddy played a bad guy on Miami Vice.
[17:15] Bobby: Yeah bro, that’s an amazing list of actors, a lot of those surprise me.
[17:20] Jason: Me too, I was really impressed with that.
[17:22] Marlon: Yeah, you were talking about a young Julia Roberts. Bruce Willis was one of the best I saw on that list because he played a bad guy. You gotta remember, Bruce Willis, he does a lot of wholesome projects, he’s a good cop, good guy. He was such a badass on this show that I have, he even hit a woman, he was really wicked.
[17:44] Bobby: What year was that, do you think?
[17:46] Marlon: Well, Bruce Willis, that was 1985, pretty much everybody was 1985.
[17:54] Bobby: That’s around when I started on the show.
[17:56] Jason: Yeah, that’s smack dab in the middle of the beginning right there.
[17:59] Bobby: Yeah man, the show.
[18:00] Marlon: Yeah, the show. And I have to say, the first year, 1984, 1985, were in fact the best years of Miami Vice.
[18:09] Bobby: So do you have the box set, DVD, Blu-ray?
[18:13] Jason: You still have the poster on the wall?
[18:15] Marlon: Yeah, I have a five box set, from beginning to end, even the last year where the show wasn’t really good writing, I have those too, so I’m a big fan.
[18:30] Bobby: You know, Miami Vice, I think the biggest impact was the fashion.
[18:35] Bobby: I think that was the most thing that stuck out to me.
[18:39] Marlon: Hey, let me ask you guys something, do you remember NBC exec Brandon Tartikoff?
[18:44] Jason: Oh, yeah.
[18:45] Bobby: Of course.
[18:45] Jason: I know who that guy is.
[18:47] Marlon: He was the head guy at NBC. Well, his thought pattern was, “I wanna create a show that is basically MTV with badges.”
[18:58] Jason: Great, and you know what, in retrospect, if you look at it, that was a brilliant tact to take, that was great.
[19:04] Marlon: Absolutely. And so what happened is, do you guys remember the show Hill Street Blues?
[19:10] Jason: Oh yeah.
[19:11] Bobby: Of course.
[19:12] Marlon: Okay, so there was a young writer there named Anthony Yerkovich, and he was a writer on Hill Street Blues, and they had these two characters on Hill Street Blues, it was like this Black cop and this white cop. These guys were very popular characters. He decided, “Let me take these two characters and put them in South Beach, put them in Miami,” and that’s how he got the concept for Miami Vice.
[19:36] Bobby: Wow, give them some cool clothes, a cool car.
[19:40] Marlon: Yeah.
[19:41] Jason: Lots of women and boats.
[19:44] Bobby: Yeah, that was a good one, man.
[19:46] Marlon: Yeah, and here’s another really interesting trivia, you know Don Johnson, he wasn’t the original guy, he was kind of a failed TV actor for a lot of years, he had four different pilots that really bombed. They originally wanted Jeff Bridges.
[20:05] Bobby: Really? Jeff Bridges.
[20:06] Jason: Jeff Bridges.
[20:07] Bobby: I like Jeff Bridges, but after you see Don Johnson doing it, it’s hard to see anyone else.
[20:12] Marlon: Right, so they wanted Jeff Bridges, they even thought about having Mark Harmon as Sonny Crockett.
[20:22] Bobby: I could see that.
[20:24] Marlon: And so what happened is, he actually hit off pretty well with the producers and they say, “You know what, we’re gonna go with him.” But here’s another trivia, there was two guys up for the job, it was Don Johnson, and do you remember Larry Wilcox?
[20:42] Jason: I know the name, I’d know his face if I saw him.
[20:45] Marlon: He was the blond-haired guy from CHiPs.
[20:50] Jason: Oh, yeah, Larry, now Ponch and what was the other guy’s name?
[20:54] Bobby: Ponch and-
[20:56] Jason: Ponch.
[20:56] Marlon: Ponch and Larry, there you go. I watched CHiPs, I’m sorry guys. But anyway, yeah, it was Don Johnson and Larry Wilcox, and what happened is they decided not to go with Larry Wilcox because he just did CHiPs. They didn’t wanna have another guy who did a cop show previous to this.
[21:15] Jason: And be kinda typecast.
[21:17] Marlon: So Don Johnson won the job.
[21:20] Bobby: And the rest is history.
[21:21] Jason: So there you go, party people, Marlon knows Miami Vice.
[21:26] Bobby: He knows it backwards and forwards.
[21:27] Jason: And stuff that you couldn’t even imagine or remember. We’ve come to that part in the program known as the show moment.
[21:40] Bobby: Oh yeah, Marlon, you got that.
[21:41] Jason: You got it, you’re right in there, so sexy, the show.
[21:44] Bobby: So today’s topic is Bob?
[21:49] Jason: Oh, you’re coming to me. You’re talking to me.
[21:52] Bobby: I’m talking to you, we’re gonna see, what part of the show didn’t you like, was there something that just got under your skin?
[21:57] Jason: Yeah, and this was requested by Anna.
[22:04] Bobby: Yeah, Anna.
[22:05] Jason: So what we’re gonna do is, Marlon, let’s start with you. What part of the show didn’t you like? When you think about it you’re like, “Ugh.”
[22:15] Marlon: Okay, so, thinking back, and this is gonna be really good facts for people that really like the show. Sometimes we taped every day, and every time on Saturday we would tape something like six to eight shows every Saturday. And to me that was such a grueling, tough day, because of course we’re having fun dancing, but there’s downtime, and then you gotta get back up and do the show all over again. So that to me was a little tough to do.
[22:50] Bobby: It was a grind, I mean, we had to bring our clothes in a suitcase, we had to change for each episode, and it was difficult.
[22:59] Jason: Right, we had to swap clothes, but not only that, after the seventh episode you’d still have to be up-
[23:05] Bobby: And excited, you had to keep that energy up.
[23:08] Marlon: Right, and that’s another thing too, it’s a good point you make, is that there’s the dancing aspect of it, but there’s also keeping your energy up, and happy, and giddy, they wanted a lot of happiness, they wanted to show that visually on the show. So you had to maintain that from, I believe we got there at 8:00 in the morning, it was pretty early, and we didn’t wrap up till 5:00, 6:00.
[23:32] Bobby: Yeah, it was a long day, and we had to deal with that little bathroom, changing clothes.
[23:39] Jason: Yeah, I think we actually have a picture of us in the bathroom getting changed or something like that.
[23:43] Bobby: I’ve seen that one.
[23:44] Jason: You saw that one?
[23:45] Bobby: What about you, Jason?
[23:46] Jason: I would say one of the things was the no playing to the camera rule, that they would selectively enforce.
[23:54] Bobby: What are you talking about?
[23:54] Jason: I know, like, I had no idea, obviously we never played to the camera ever, never, not at all. But every once in a while, a couple months would go by, and then something would happen, and they would kinda make examples out of certain people.
[24:14] Bobby: You know, though, the moments that we got together and jumped around, played to the camera, they were the best moments for me.
[24:20] Jason: Yeah, they were, well, for me too.
[24:22] Marlon: And when you guys picked me up and Peter tossed me like a trophy, that to me is going back on some fun times.
[24:32] Bobby: Yeah man, that’s classic.
[24:33] Jason: So there’s my part that I really didn’t like so much, selective enforcement.
[24:38] Bobby: Yeah, well, I got one for you, I know you’ll both remember this, every time they would play that song Lean On Me-
[24:46] Jason: Oh my God.
[24:47] Bobby: And then we were required to all do the Lean On Me dance.
[24:52] Jason: Ugh.
[24:53] Bobby: And oh man, I hated that.
[24:55] Jason: I still can’t listen to that song, I gotta be honest with you, honest to God, I still can’t listen to it.
[25:00] Marlon: I still have bad dreams of hearing that song and doing that happy dance, I don’t know if I can put visuals to it, but it was a little daunting.
[25:13] Jason: It was anything but happy though, let’s be honest, Mar, it was anything but happy.
[25:17] Marlon: Right, right.
[25:17] Bobby: So there you go, that’s our little show moment.
[25:19] Jason: That is the show moment.
[25:24] Bobby: You want me to do it?
[25:26] Jason: Yeah, come on, the show moment.
[25:27] Bobby: Mar, what do you got, Mar? The show, baby, hey baby, yes, hey now, bring it in, hey now. So, you guys know Taylor Swift, right?
[25:37] Jason: Yes, not on a personal level, but yes.
[25:39] Bobby: Well, she released, in 2014, the album 1989.
[25:49] Jason: You know, when that first came out, I thought to myself, all this shit’s gonna sound like from 1989, oh my God, everything’s coming back.
[25:56] Bobby: Well, here’s the thing, the reason why I think she named it, because she was born in 1989. So there you go, pretty simple. But it’s not that I’m a big fan of Taylor, the fact that it was 1989, I wanted to share with you a few things that happened in 1989.
[26:14] Jason: That was a good year, I had a good time in that year, one thing that sticks out in my head was that was when I first went to LA for a couple long extended periods of time.
[26:22] Bobby: Yeah, at that point you were done with the show, right?
[26:24] Jason: Yeah, I left the show in 1989, and that summer I went out there, and I was actually on Bandstand a couple times, there’s a picture.
[26:31] Bobby: I saw some of that.
[26:32] Jason: What about you? Your personal 1989.
[26:34] Bobby: I had came back to the show, and I was hosting with Princess.
[26:40] Jason: What about you, Marlon?
[26:42] Marlon: Yeah, I think I was gone, I left the show and moved on.
[26:44] Jason: Did anything happen to you in ’89? Anything big?
[26:48] Marlon: Um, no, not particularly, just, I was trying to study music, and trying to find myself in a sense, so I was just moving on.
[26:57] Bobby: Well, here’s some things that did happen in 1989, and I’m sure you guys remember all these. The B-52’s and that famous song The Love Shack.
[27:09] Jason: Oh my God, how about that one?
[27:10] Jason: I can’t help it, I’m doing the dance now, guys.
[27:15] Bobby: But let me tell you, that song they played so much on the radio, it was worn out.
[27:20] Jason: That’s like a high school song from all my dances.
[27:23] Marlon: And what’s really interesting about the B-52’s is that they were a band from Athens, Georgia, and they were really on the underground scene, and that song put them on the map pretty much, on a commercial tip.
[27:37] Bobby: That was a giant hit.
[27:39] Jason: It was a love shack, baby.
[27:41] Bobby: There you go, perfect. Here’s another one, I’m a big fan of this show, 1989, the world was introduced to that animated family, The Simpsons.
[27:53] Jason: Holy shit, wow, it’s that old?
[27:56] Bobby: Yes, 1989 is when The Simpsons premiered, and it’s still going.
[28:04] Jason: I would never have believed ’89, oh my God.
[28:06] Bobby: Yeah bro, I think they started December 1989 with the first episode.
[28:10] Jason: Man, the people who have the voiceover, the voices for those gigs, they scored sweet.
[28:15] Marlon: And here’s the interesting thing about that, is that The Simpsons was a kind of a small comedy sketch that was premiered on The Tracey Ullman Show.
[28:27] Jason: Oh, dude.
[28:27] Bobby: Wow, that’s right.
[28:28] Jason: Well, you just told me that, I just remembered that, that’s awesome.
[28:32] Bobby: Marlon’s full of information.
[28:36] Jason: I love it, you’re like our entertainment Wikipedia, bro.
[28:39] Bobby: Here’s another one, and I know you’ve seen this commercial because it was played a thousand times, do you remember the Energizer Bunny?
[28:48] Marlon: Yeah.
[28:48] Jason: Yeah.
[28:49] Bobby: Well, the first time that premiered was 1989.
[28:53] Jason: Are you shitting me?
[28:54] Bobby: I am not shitting you.
[28:57] Marlon: And what’s really wild about that is that the Energizer Bunny is still on the air.
[29:04] Bobby: It is, those batteries just keep going and going and going. All right, so here’s another one, and I know this is Jason’s favorite show, and it was on NBC, and premiered in 1989, and had a four-year run, and it was Saved by the Bell.
[29:24] Jason: Oh yeah, I loved the Zack Attack.
[29:27] Bobby: The Zack Attack.
[29:29] Jason: Wow, they just got together and did something on Jimmy Fallon not too long ago.
[29:34] Bobby: So yeah man, there was a lot of shit going on in ’89.
[29:37] Jason: Wow, Saved by the Bell, only four years?
[29:39] Bobby: Yeah, just four years, but it seemed like, ’cause it’s been in rotation, reruns forever, so those producers really hit the jackpot with that one.
[29:50] Jason: All right, 1989.
[29:50] Bobby: I got one more for you guys, and this I never actually tried, but in 1989 McDonald’s introduced pizza, did you guys ever try that?
[30:03] Jason: No, did you say pizza?
[30:04] Bobby: Pizza, yep, they tried it, it didn’t work out.
[30:08] Jason: Oh, really?
[30:09] Bobby: But in ’89 McDonald’s had pizza.
[30:12] Jason: All I gotta say is this: gross.
[30:14] Bobby: Yeah, I’m sure it was not anything good, nothing like Mac’s Pizza down in Watwood.
[30:18] Jason: Or Secret Pizza, with Cosmopolitan.
[30:21] Bobby: Or Pizza Rock.
[30:24] Jason: Pizza Rock, yes.
[30:25] Bobby: Pizza Rock, baby.
[30:26] Jason: Pizza Rock, oh my God, we’re gonna have to do a pizza show where we just go around and try pizza.
[30:29] Bobby: Yeah, we gotta try doing pizzas everywhere.
[30:33] Marlon: Now you got me all emotional about Pizza Rock, bro, I can’t, you gotta ship that out to me or something.
[30:39] Bobby: See, Marlon, I’ve taken Marlon there, and he knows the deal about Pizza Rock, I’m not lying.
[30:44] Bobby: I like pizza. Heya Marlinda, what do you wanna about a pizza with a marinara sauce?
[30:51] Jason: There you go. Marlon, it was such a good time having you on the show, Marlon.
[30:57] Bobby: Heya buttons, can you give me a little Italiano for the people?
[31:01] Jason: Come on, the people wanna hear it.
[31:05] Jason: Marlon, what’s wrong with you? You got a little something here.
[31:08] Bobby: What the hell is going on in New Jersey? Amore-
[31:11] Marlon: I love the pizza, I love the Jason, I love the Bobby, I love the awesome show.
[31:15] Bobby: And the pepperoni, don’t forget the pepperoni.
[31:19] Jason: Oh, and especially I love-a the buttons, the buttons.
[31:23] Bobby: Oh man, that was fun, that was too much fun.
[31:26] Jason: Marlon, awesome having you again, man.
[31:29] Bobby: Bro, you brought so much to the table, and you really did your homework, bro.
[31:38] Jason: All right, later, Marlon.
[31:40] Bobby: Thanks guys, take care.
[31:42] Jason: I’ll tell you man, we really are knuckleheads, I don’t know where the hell the French accent comes from, and the bad Mario and Luigi comes from.
[31:49] Bobby: I know, we are, it’s knuckleheads is a perfect word to describe these guys.
[31:56] Jason: And thankfully for all of your emails and all of your messages, you guys out there seem to enjoy it too.
[32:02] Bobby: Yep, it’s that time.
[32:05] Jason: It’s that time of the show, where we read, well first off I’m gonna start this one if you don’t mind.
[32:11] Bobby: You go for it.
[32:12] Jason: Thank you. I wanna give right from the jump, the special dispensation award of messages on the Facebook page today. I know we talked about it earlier, but Patty Mariconda, I wanna thank you very much.
[32:26] Bobby: Oh, Patty.
[32:27] Jason: Yes, for anybody that can help me point out the glitches. I was actually, my soft side was coming out, like the good side of the force, and you just brought me right back to the dark side, I appreciate it.
[32:39] Bobby: Well, guess what, Jason? This show was glitch-free.
[32:43] Jason: Well, I’m sure somebody out there will put a bounty out for a glitch.
[32:47] Bobby: A bounty, find those glitches.
[32:49] Jason: Tuna fish in water, one can.
[32:52] Bobby: That’s funny.
[32:53] Jason: Okay, so here we go, here’s some comments from our Facebook page that I’m gonna read, and this one, first one, is from Rick Mulligan.
[33:01] Bobby: Hey Rick, what’s up?
[33:03] Jason: Two episodes back to back, glitch-free. I tell you, Bob, you’re getting this force of people that have your ass here. I think you two knuckleheads might actually have the hang of this finally.
[33:08] Bobby: I’m telling you man, we’ve made the word glitch, like, the new cool word.
[33:13] Jason: I don’t know about cool, but it’s the new word.
[33:20] Jason: Well, thank you, Rick.
[33:21] Bobby: Yeah, thanks Rick, we appreciate the comment.
[33:23] Jason: Thank you, somebody’s paying attention. Kristin Elizabeth, “Marlon is the best,” can we, let’s give a real round of applause to Marlon here.
[33:31] Bobby: Let’s do that, golf clap.
[33:33] Jason: Marlon’s the best.
[33:34] Bobby: Marlon kicked some ass today.
[33:36] Jason: When we came to DP, Dance Party, in 1987, he took us to Wendy’s after.
[33:41] Bobby: You know what? That doesn’t surprise me, man, not at all, he’s such a good dude.
[33:45] Jason: And he’s the type of guy who would do that, and Wendy’s was the place to go. Gia, you know Gia, I’m not gonna attempt the rest of your name, Gia, sorry, there’s a lot going on there, and I don’t wanna embarrass myself. “That was a fantastic surprise. Hi, Marlon.”
[34:03] Bobby: Hey, Marlon.
[34:03] Jason: “Marlon, I’m sure seeing this right now.”
[34:05] Bobby: Damn, Marlon’s popular.
[34:06] Jason: “So glad he’ll be with you guys.” Well, he’s always with us in spirit. “I will now never be able to call the song Venus ever again.”
[34:16] Jason: Neither will I. Oh man, I’m your Venus, I’m your fire, at your desire.
[34:19] Bobby: We need to take a road trip to Venice, baby.
[34:21] Jason: “When I refer to it, it will always be Venice, hysterical, love you guys.” Thanks, Gia.
[34:27] Bobby: Thanks, Gia, thanks for pointing that out.
[34:32] Jason: And now, ladies and gentlemen, doing something that I could never do in a million years, Bobby.
[34:39] Bobby: Here we go, all right, so we’re trying something new this week, we actually got an email from a fan who wrote it in Spanish.
[34:50] Jason: Oh my God.
[34:51] Bobby: So I’m gonna do my best, I do speak some Spanish, I hablo cincuenta cincuenta, that means I speak 50%, 50%.
[35:01] Jason: Thanks for breaking that down for me.
[35:04] Bobby: Yeah, exactly. So let me give this a shot, this is from Esperanza Gomez, and I’ll read it in Spanish first, and then I’ll read it in English for those people who don’t speak Spanish.
[35:16] Jason: Thank you.
[35:17] Bobby: Here we go. She writes, “No puedo creer, chicos, que sigan juntos haciendo sus cosas. Me siento afortunada de haber encontrado su podcast. Una amiga mia me dijo acerca y estoy muy feliz y contenta que los compartieron conmigo. Escuchando hasta el episodio cuatro, pero decirles que hacen un trabajo excelente. Y por favor sigan asi adelante. Hay una quimica muy natural entre los dos, estos dos, y es realmente un show super divertido.”
[36:09] Jason: If you would’ve held a gun to my head, I mean serious, I’d be dead.
[36:11] Bobby: Do you understand any of that?
[36:12] Jason: I didn’t get one thing of what you said.
[36:14] Bobby: Listen, the Spanish speakers out there, if I butchered that, I’m sorry, I did my best, lo siento mucho, pero yo hablo mas y menos. I’m gonna read it now in English.
[36:23] Jason: Please.
[36:24] Bobby: Okay, ’cause I don’t know what the hell that said. So Esperanza wrote this: “Wow, I can’t believe you guys are still together doing your thing. I feel lucky to have found your podcast. A friend of mine told me about it, and I’m so happy she did. I’m only up to episode four, but I can say you guys are doing an amazing job, and please keep it up. There is just a natural chemistry between the both of you, and it’s really a fun show.”
[36:51] Jason: Wow.
[36:51] Bobby: Yeah, great, it’s a great email, Esperanza Gomez, thank you.
[36:58] Jason: And it’s so cool that people say that, because, man, it’s just you and me hanging out, really.
[37:04] Bobby: We are, it’s just you, me, and then we got Marlon here, and we’re just all talking.
[37:09] Jason: And you can tell, everybody out there who’s listening can tell when it goes off the rails sometimes, but we have a lot of fun with it.
[37:15] Bobby: Yeah, we actually like when that happens, you just go with it and let shit fall where it does.
[37:21] Jason: Yeah, and as long as you’re having fun out there, which you are, I wanna thank everybody who signed up for our mailing list, and everybody who sent shout-outs on Twitter and Instagram and everything on Facebook especially, we’re getting the word out more and more, and every week there’s just been more and more people coming.
[37:41] Bobby: Yeah, it’s growing, and we really appreciate the support from everyone.
[37:44] Jason: Especially everybody that has been there in the beginning, everybody who’s sending their messages and emails, on the ground floor, baby. It really encourages us, and it makes us feel good, because, like we said way back in the first one, we were just sitting around, and we’re like, maybe nobody’s gonna listen.
[37:59] Bobby: Just our parents, that’s it.
[38:01] Jason: That’s it.
[38:01] Bobby: Well, Jason, I think it’s time we’re wrapping this episode up.
[38:05] Jason: Oh my God, is it really the end of the show? ‘Cause I’m hungry, I wanna go get a pizza pie, but I don’t want it to be the end of the show.
[38:10] Bobby: I cannot wait till the next Thursday.
[38:14] Jason: I’m sorry, but this podcast will self-destruct in five, four, three, two, one, boom.
[38:23] Bobby: I’ll see you later.
[38:23] Jason: I’ll see you later.
Original 2016 show notes
Are you talkin’ to me?
This week on the Awesome 80s podcast Bobby and Jason bring the 80’s Amore’ as Detectives Sonny Crockett and Ricardo Tubbs are in the house… well sort of 🙂
The “Wikipedia” Mr. Marlon Dow drops some serious 80s knowledge on the guys in this weeks “Moment with Marlon”.
Are they seriously talking about Taylor Swift? Could be…or maybe it’s just a little “1989” magic that unlocks the ol’ memory box.
Get inside of Bobbys head as he remembers what it was like to run marathons and keep going..and going..and going…
Your comments, 80s Email bag, Show moments, Miami Vice, The Simpsons, the Zack Attack, and even McDonald’s Pizza (yikes!)… Can you believe it?
Did someone spike the show beverages with a bit of Limocello? Or did the show just go off the rails?
When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie (doesn’t pizza make everything better?) …That’s amore’!
Oh listen to this episode than you’ll understand. =)
Enjoy!
FAQ
What is Episode 8 about?
Bobby, Jason, and Marlon Dow talk Star Wars, arcade memories, and a deep dive into Miami Vice, then get honest about the parts of the old show that were a grind and take a look back at 1989.
When did Episode 8 air?
It was released August 18, 2016, as part of Season 1.
What is the Miami Vice trivia in this episode?
Marlon Dow quizzes the guys on which big-name actors guest-starred on Miami Vice and walks through the show’s origins, including the exec who pitched it as MTV with badges.
Where can I listen?
Play it right here on the episode page, or find Bobby and Jason’s Awesome 80s Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Amazon Music.
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