Episode 17: 1980’s Halloween Memories!

[0:00] Speaker: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, children of all ages, to Bobby and Jason’s Halloween podcast extravaganza. Sit back now, my kitties, and listen to the thespian Robert Catalano as he takes you to the depths of hell in his reading of The Thriller.

[0:42] Bobby: Darkness falls across the land. The midnight hour is close at hand. Creatures crawl in search of blood to terrorize y’all’s neighborhood. And whoever shall be found, without the soul for getting down, must stand and face the hounds of hell and rot inside a corpse’s shell. The foulest stench is in the air.

[1:12] Bobby: The funk of forty thousand years and grizzly ghouls from every tomb are closing in to seal your doom. And though you fight to stay alive, your body starts to shiver. For no mere mortal can resist the evil of the thriller.

[1:39] Jason: I think you’re trying to scare the shit out of everybody, bro.

[1:43] Bobby: Did I do it? Did I scare anybody?

[1:45] Jason: Yeah, you scared me. I don’t even know where the dog is.

[1:48] Bobby: Dog just left. He heard that voice and said, “You know what? I don’t need this.”

[1:52] Jason: And how many people out there really have always thought to yourself when you hear that song, “Wow, Bobby would sound great doing that. I wonder if he’s ever done it.”

[2:00] Bobby: You know what, though? Vincent Price, he killed it. So I just wanted to do my little version, and I give major props. I love that song.

[2:07] Jason: Isn’t that a great song?

[2:09] Bobby: It goes with Halloween, which is coming up next week, so it’s perfect. It’s like a perfect marriage.

[2:15] Jason: Yeah, it totally evokes, he nailed it, Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones, that whole record.

[2:22] Bobby: Yeah, John Landis directed the video, which was a major event. That Thriller video was like a mini movie.

[2:29] Jason: Yeah, it was like, and you got a chance to watch it at home. Do you remember the making of Thriller?

[2:34] Jason: That was even better than the actual video, wasn’t it? The makeup, the process and the hours it took to make him into the zombie Michael.

[2:44] Jason: How it was taken from another fabulous horror film from the ’80s, An American Werewolf in London.

[2:49] Bobby: Exactly, that was John Landis, very talented. That was a great crew. Dude, between Michael, John, and Quincy, man, star power.

[2:58] Jason: Yeah, you know what else? We didn’t even introduce ourselves here yet.

[3:02] Bobby: Well, my name is Bobby Catalano, and across the table is Jason Pasco.

[3:07] Jason: Oh, come on. Can’t you do it like Don Pardo from Saturday Night Live?

[3:11] Bobby: Jason Pasco.

[3:16] Bobby: And we are Bobby and Jason’s Awesome ’80s Podcast, and this is, I think, number 17.

[3:23] Jason: It is our frightful special, Robert Catalano.

[3:25] Bobby: Frightful number 17, the Halloween special.

[3:29] Jason: Can you give me another one of those laughs, too, scaring little kids everywhere?

[3:37] Bobby: Oh, shit. Anyway, so last week we had a big show, man. We had William Katt from The Greatest American Hero, and that was just a great interview.

[3:46] Jason: Just talking to him, it felt, you know, Scotty Schwartz and Diane Franklin, they felt really, I was really super comfortable talking to them. But William Katt, talking to him, just the way he talked about things and described things and where he comes from, it was just.

[4:04] Bobby: We were both a little nervous, you know, before the interview. We just didn’t wanna fuck it up.

[4:09] Bobby: But we got a lot of great feedback, and William also, he said he loved the interview.

[4:14] Jason: Well, believe it or not, we really haven’t done too many of these interview things. I mean, you did back in the ’80s, when you were hosting The Show.

[4:22] Bobby: Yeah, The Show. You interviewed a lot of people. Yeah, in ’90, ’91 when I was with Princess, but that was more musical types, and never in depth like we’re getting on this show.

[4:33] Jason: Like a phone call, like?

[4:34] Bobby: Yeah, we’re really asking a lot of questions and having a great conversation, and it’s cool.

[4:40] Jason: Yeah, it really struck me too, ’cause we really appreciate everybody’s feedback out there and how much he’s loved. I mean, we got emails and we got messages, and just how it affected each and every one of you. And sometimes Bobby and I, in our little bubble here in the garage when we’re doing this.

[4:56] Bobby: The double garage.

[4:57] Jason: The double, exactly, movin’ on up. We don’t realize that him and I just sitting here bullshitting, saying words, that everybody out there is listening to it all over the country, all over the world.

[5:09] Bobby: They are. There’s some listeners who always write and say, “I was jogging, I’m exercising, I’m listening to you. I’m in the car, I’m in traffic, and I’m listening.” And it’s very cool to know that people are doing that.

[5:22] Jason: And just as you’re probably listening and thinking to yourselves with us sitting here, what the hell are we doing? What do we look like? When I read your comments and I think about it, I think to myself, are you doing the dishes, are you working out, what do you do, driving in your car?

[5:39] Bobby: All that, they’re doing everything, the daily life.

[5:42] Bobby: So look, Halloween is next week, and I figured I had a couple Halloween type things. You wanna hear this one?

[5:51] Jason: How convenient.

[5:52] Bobby: I know, I’m always.

[5:53] Jason: First off, let’s get a little Halloween intro music, please. Come on, Jeeves, intro music. Spooky, scary stuff.

[6:02] Bobby: There you go, now go right ahead.

[6:05] Bobby: So in the box office, a Halloween movie actually was number one last week. Do you know what it was?

[6:12] Jason: No.

[6:13] Bobby: Tyler Perry’s Boo: A Madea Halloween. Believe it or not, this movie beat Tom Cruise’s Jack Reacher. And it made $27 million.

[6:26] Bobby: That’s impressive, man, for a Halloween comedy type.

[6:31] Jason: Especially when he’s making it for probably like 50 mil.

[6:34] Bobby: It’s already a hit, and it’s only week one. But yeah, he does well, Tyler Perry does very well with the Madea things. He did the Madea Christmas, which was a big hit. Basically, if this guy does any holiday, it seems to be working.

[6:48] Bobby: So he should keep that up. So yeah, that’s my little fun fact of Halloween type thing.

[6:56] Jason: That was great. I know, ladies and gents, we call this the Awesome ’80s podcast, but it’s turning into Bobby and Jason’s Awesome ’80s, and then things that are going on in the world podcast.

[7:08] Bobby: We talk about whatever the hell we want.

[7:10] Jason: Yes, and we’re really appreciative of the fact that you take your time and listen to us, so we do appreciate that. That’s why we read your comments and appreciate what you say as well.

[7:20] Bobby: So Jason, I have a little pet peeve with you.

[7:23] Jason: With me?

[7:26] Bobby: Yes. I’m sure a lot of listeners, look, if you watch a TV show and you dedicate your time, a show like Game of Thrones, for example, which is one of my favorite TV shows, I’ve been watching it since episode one.

[7:41] Jason: Wait a second, are you comparing us to Game of Thrones?

[7:43] Bobby: Well, I’m not, but here’s what happened, peeps. So I get a text message from Mr. Pasco, and there’s an attachment, and it says, “Spoiler.” Apparently somebody videotaped a scene from the upcoming season next year, and there’s a scene out there that people can watch. And I didn’t play it because I didn’t wanna know, I wanna be surprised. But Jason, he can’t wait. So why’d you send me that? Come on.

[8:16] Jason: Well, I thought you, I’m a guy, me, my fix for Game of Thrones too. Did you watch it?

[8:22] Bobby: I did watch it. Don’t tell me about it.

[8:24] Jason: Are you sure?

[8:25] Bobby: Yes. Don’t tell anybody, ’cause I know there’s listeners who watch Game of Thrones, and I think they’d be very disappointed.

[8:31] Jason: I don’t wanna spoil it for anyone, but here’s the thing. Up until this episode, this season, last season, everybody knew from the books. I never read the books, did you read the books?

[8:41] Bobby: I didn’t.

[8:42] Jason: I never read the books, I wanna go back and read them.

[8:44] Bobby: Yes, afterwards.

[8:45] Jason: But you know, after you get done watching those episodes in March, in early, you just want more of it. You wanna mainline more of it in your veins.

[8:53] Bobby: I agree, man. The seasons go so fast, and that last episode each season, you’re like, “Shit, I gotta wait another year to see what the hell happens.”

[9:01] Jason: Yes. You can go back and watch them again. Don’t you watch them in Spanish too?

[9:05] Bobby: I watch them on HBO, just in English. But then, yeah, I go back with my wife, and we watch them with Spanish subtitles.

[9:16] Bobby: She speaks good English, but she gets more when she can read it in Spanish also.

[9:22] Jason: I think that’s pretty cool.

[9:23] Bobby: So yeah, we do that together.

[9:25] Jason: I’d be totally lost. But watching that show, I just needed a little bit more of it.

[9:34] Bobby: So what team are you on, what house is your favorite house on Game of Thrones?

[9:39] Jason: Jon Snow.

[9:41] Bobby: Me too.

[9:41] Jason: That’s the only way to go, man.

[9:42] Bobby: Team Stark, baby.

[9:43] Jason: Team Stark. Whoa, give me a pound. There we go, team Stark.

[9:48] Bobby: Yeah, ’cause those Lannisters, they’re real cocksuckers.

[9:50] Jason: Yeah, I think Jaime Lannister is actually deep down a decent dude, there’s parts of him that I like.

[10:01] Bobby: See, and that’s where the twist comes with the show, they twist it. If you go back and watch the first two episodes where he pushes Bran off the tower.

[10:08] Jason: It’s terrible, where he kills his cousin.

[10:11] Bobby: How did we get into a whole Game of Thrones conversation? See, we told you this, we could talk about Game of Thrones for like an hour.

[10:16] Jason: See this, everybody, that’s why we warned you, it’s the ’80s show.

[10:20] Bobby: But yeah, just so you know, Bobby and Jason are Team Stark. I don’t know any of you guys, but that’s our team.

[10:26] Jason: So let’s do a little ’80s here, okay? It’s been a while since we’ve had a show moment. So Roberto, can we get a little, the show, how about that laugh, too?

[10:43] Bobby: So what do you got?

[10:44] Jason: So we got a show moment here because there was a little issue with a friend of ours’ video last week. We don’t wanna get all into that though, but I just can’t help it, I just want to sometimes, and he just stops me.

[11:00] Bobby: Yeah, the copyright police are always on the prowl.

[11:04] Jason: Ridonkulous. Anyway, so here’s a question that we had about Halloween. How convenient.

[11:12] Jason: The question was, I’m a little bit discombobulated so I don’t have it in front of me, but it was, what did we dress up as for Halloween while we were on the show, and what are our favorite show memories from Halloween? So what do you remember, and what did we dress up as? Now, a while back, we went over the one huge embarrassing moment that we did.

[11:34] Bobby: Yeah, we did, and that’s the one that I always remember. I dressed up as Marlon Dell.

[11:39] Jason: You dressed up and I dressed up as Todd Fresh.

[11:41] Bobby: And yeah, we had a good time with that, that was my number one memory of any Halloween show that I did on the show.

[11:49] Jason: But didn’t you wear anything else, didn’t you do anything else?

[11:52] Bobby: I honestly don’t remember, nothing sticks out to me other than that show. What about you?

[11:57] Jason: I did the Coneheads with Joe White.

[11:59] Bobby: Okay, you did the Coneheads. See, I can’t remember. I kind of remember I dressed up as a girl maybe.

[12:07] Bobby: And I was kind of cute, I had makeup on.

[12:11] Jason: Especially with that voice. “Hey, big boy.”

[12:13] Bobby: “Hey, baby. What are you doing?”

[12:16] Jason: “Would you like to, can I pick you in the dance?”

[12:17] Bobby: “Who’s paying for dinner?”

[12:19] Jason: I remember that Andy would dress up as Dracula.

[12:21] Bobby: I remember that. Remember that? And actually he looked great.

[12:24] Bobby: That was a great costume.

[12:25] Jason: He would be like, “I want to.”

[12:28] Bobby: One thing about the show, the specials were always fun, because they didn’t come around too often, so the Christmas show or the Halloween show, these were special shows, the Valentine’s show. I enjoyed the specials.

[12:41] Jason: The specials were fun, you could get away with a little bit more. I remember, I think we did a graduation, I think as time went on they would say we’d have to wear suits, and we would only wear suit jackets, but.

[12:52] Bobby: Then like Hawaiian shorts and sneakers. I remember that, we were kind of rebellious, Jason and I, and Marlon, and Joe. But we had a great time. Do you remember the anniversary shows every year? Those were fun, those were a lot of fun. They would bring in a cake. He would bring in special guests. They would get the crew in there, you’d see the cameramen, and it was cool to see everybody who made the show.

[13:15] Bobby: The producers, the cameramen.

[13:16] Jason: The cameramen were really cool, Eggy.

[13:17] Bobby: Eggy, I remember Eggy very well. Art.

[13:20] Jason: Artie, who’s the floor director.

[13:22] Bobby: Yeah, great floor director. But Eggy was the one who stood out the most to me, he was such a nice guy, funny.

[13:28] Jason: He was very personable, let’s put it that way.

[13:30] Bobby: He really was.

[13:32] Bobby: And these guys, the cameramen, also did camera work for the Philadelphia Phillies.

[13:37] Jason: So we would get a lot of scoop from that, they would talk about what was going on.

[13:40] Bobby: So yeah, speaking of Halloween and dressing up, what do you remember as a child, not the show, when you were a child, like what were some of your costumes?

[13:51] Jason: Well, first off, as a child, the thing that’s so different from today, and I’m sure everybody out there who’s got kids or relatives that are young, everything’s so protected now and whatnot, rightfully so for things that go on, but Halloween is a different day. They can only trick-or-treat between certain hours. The thing I remember as a kid, now we both kind of grew up in the suburbs of Jersey. Well, you were South Philly for a while.

[14:13] Bobby: Well, I was in South Philly until I was 13.

[14:15] Jason: So there you go. I trick-or-treated in South Philly a lot.

[14:18] Jason: So one thing, I was allowed to go out, I went out all night.

[14:22] Jason: You’d go out all night until it was really dark. So you’d start early, and you’d hit everywhere, and everybody basically in my South Jersey did trick-or-treating, all the houses. Nowadays it’s like, “What a pain in the ass, these kids are coming around.” Get off my lawn.

[14:37] Bobby: So when your bag was full, did you go dump it at home and then go back out and get another?

[14:44] Bobby: I did. I was greedy, man, I actually used a pillowcase as a bag, that’s the only way to do it. And I would get it full, I’d go back to the house, I’d dump it out, and I’d go back around. Now one year, I remember this really vividly, I was out trick-or-treating and some bigger kids came along, and I had a tug-of-war with my pillowcase, and they ended up stealing my candy. Bro, I went home crying.

[15:09] Bobby: So you actually had that thing, it really, really happened. They were like 15, 16 year olds, and I’m like 12, 11. What am I gonna do, I’m this skinny little kid. But I fought for my candy, but I lost it. I went home crying to my dad, he was pissed. He was, “I’m gonna go find them motherfuckers and I’m gonna kick their ass.” You know, my dad.

[15:26] Jason: He didn’t actually say that when you were 12?

[15:27] Bobby: Actually, he did. You know Mr. C, my father, he’s the genuine deal, he’s Mr. South Philly.

[15:34] Jason: He definitely did say that, I’m sure. What did you go out dressed as? What did you do, how did you make your costumes?

[15:43] Bobby: I mostly bought them. I think I would go to Kmart and, you know how you see the racks of costumes, I did superheroes, I think I did Batman. I also dressed up as a girl as a kid, I don’t know what that’s saying, I guess I had a girl fetish, I don’t know, well, I love women, so.

[16:04] Bobby: I don’t wanna, I mean, I can’t even remember. Mostly superhero stuff, Star Wars-type costumes. The things that I loved as a child and I still love today. And you?

[16:17] Jason: I would be very, it was interesting, we had a lot in my school, I’m sure they do it today, Halloween parades where everybody’d go around and whatnot. Now, I would never find what I wanted with costumes, so I’d make my own. I got a cardboard box, ’cause I remember one year I made the Ark of the Covenant, really looking good with the broom handles and whatnot. And a friend of mine dressed up as the carrier sport.

[16:39] Bobby: We did that, I made a battleship one year.

[16:42] Jason: So I would make these, very creative, out of boxes, and the paint and all kinds of stuff. My father would help me and bring art supplies back from school when I was a kid.

[16:50] Bobby: Did you ever make a robot? That would feel like something you might do.

[16:53] Jason: Yeah, I did a box robot, you know. I think my brother might’ve made a robot. But I liked the ones where you could, you made it and you’d walk around it, and so it felt like you were in a fort, you know what I’m saying, so it was kind of, I’m protected.

[17:05] Bobby: I’m protected.

[17:06] Jason: Exactly, it was kind of cool. And then we would make, you know how you’d draw on paper and you’d tape it together, we’d make superhero things that you’d wrap around your body. My brother would be Superman, and I would always be Green Lantern.

[17:20] Bobby: Green Lantern was my favorite.

[17:21] Jason: Yeah, so that’s a little Halloween action there.

[17:25] Bobby: So, you know, for the past couple shows, I’ve been bringing up this killer clown stuff, it just, bro, it’s always in the news, especially because Halloween is around the corner.

[17:36] Jason: Well, that makes it very convenient.

[17:37] Bobby: So here’s the thing, you thought maybe this was just happening in the United States, but there’s problems all over the globe.

[17:42] Jason: Oh, my God, the killer clowns are unionizing.

[17:46] Bobby: No, no, no, it’s much deeper, man. Let me give you a couple tidbits. So in Australia, there was a masked killer clown, and he smacked a guy over the head with a fucking bat. A killer clown smacked a guy over the head, so his friends then ran over the killer clown with their car.

[18:06] Bobby: This really happened.

[18:07] Jason: I’m not meaning to laugh, I mean, I’m not laughing.

[18:10] Bobby: Well, he started it, he had the mask and a bat, the visual, I mean, hell, I would’ve ran him over too. Now it’s on YouTube, I want to try and find the link, I’m gonna put it on Facebook. Some people say it was staged, but I watched it, and honestly, it looked real. I’ll show it to you, and you tell me what you think.

[18:24] Jason: Was it like when they ran over him, was the skid mark, like, colorful, like tears?

[18:27] Bobby: No, you just hear a thump. It’s crazy. So that’s Australia. Now let’s go over to the UK. In the UK, there’s a guy, his name is Gary Bedford, okay?

[18:39] Bobby: He dresses up as Batman, he goes around and attacks the killer clowns, so the kids aren’t scared. I mean, these killer clowns are getting bad press everywhere, they’re getting Batman out of retirement. So what happens is he actually has a phone number, and if a kid sees a killer clown that’s bothering people, he calls him on his Batphone. Bro, this is a true story out of the UK, no lie.

[19:08] Bobby: So here’s another one, this one’s in Cambodia of all places.

[19:12] Jason: Cambodia.

[19:13] Bobby: But the killer clowns have made it to Cambodia, people.

[19:16] Jason: This is like the ice bucket challenge here.

[19:17] Bobby: It’s unbelievable. So anyway, there’s a US student, he’s visiting relatives in Cambodia, he decides he’s gonna bring his killer clown mask out and go around and terrorize the people in this town in Cambodia. So what happens is the people get fed up with this shit, they chase this guy into the forest.

[19:38] Bobby: But the killer clown doesn’t know that there’s actually landmines that are left in that forest. He actually steps on one and dies.

[19:47] Jason: Well, it’s one less killer clown.

[19:49] Bobby: So people, there’s a lesson for you, do not go to Cambodia, do not dress up as a killer clown, and do not run in the forest.

[19:56] Jason: Unless you wanna see Batman, then you can dress up as a killer clown. But party people, what is it today?

[20:05] Bobby: I’ll tell you, it’s a crazy world, bro.

[20:06] Jason: Can’t we just have a good time?

[20:08] Bobby: Crazy world.

[20:09] Jason: So during the ’80s, that was when those horror movies came out. We talked a bit about one last week with William Katt, House.

[20:16] Bobby: House, which is a good one. And the ’80s is just an amazing decade for horror movies.

[20:22] Jason: Treasure trove of horror movies.

[20:23] Bobby: It really is. Because it’s funny, ’cause I think 1978, Halloween, the original came out, and that started the whole slasher-type films.

[20:32] Jason: Yeah, the Friday the 13ths and whatnot. Now, do you remember, everybody just take a second, close your eyes, and remember the first time you saw Friday the 13th in the ’80s. And, you know, even though now with everything that goes on, wasn’t it scary?

[20:45] Bobby: It was very scary. That was Crystal Lake, right? I mean, did you wanna pee at that place? I mean, I did.

[20:51] Jason: I think it was in Jersey too, Crystal Lake.

[20:53] Bobby: Really?

[20:54] Bobby: Damn.

[20:55] Bobby: You know, I don’t wanna run into Jason.

[20:58] Jason: Me either.

[21:00] Bobby: So yeah, definitely Friday the 13th is in on everybody’s list of favorites, and then of course Freddy Krueger.

[21:07] Bobby: The first one was unbelievably scary, I think I had nightmares.

[21:14] Jason: Yeah, everybody had nightmares, that caused an uproar, culturally with everyone, it caused like a crazy uproar. I remember that. And that was great for the guys who wrote it, but this was back in the day, remember everybody, when there was only three, four channels on TV.

[21:29] Jason: So when you saw these movies, ’cause like you said, we were not connected with cell phones, we weren’t connected with the internet, it was the real deal. You’re riding your bike and it’s getting dark, and you just watched Friday the 13th, Freddy’s behind you.

[21:44] Bobby: Yeah, bro, you and I saw a movie together that is one of my all-time favorites. Now it’s considered science fiction, but it’s also considered horror. And we saw it in 1986.

[21:56] Jason: Yes, we did, on a double date.

[21:58] Jason: I remember.

[21:58] Bobby: And that movie is?

[22:01] Jason: Aliens.

[22:01] Bobby: 2, the second one. Aliens, an unbelievable film. Even today I can watch it and I’m not tired. I love that movie.

[22:10] Jason: It was a great decade of horror. Now we can go over all of the big ones, with the Freddys and the Houses and the Friday the 13ths.

[22:13] Bobby: It really was.

[22:13] Jason: Now, but I remember there used to be a channel, probably one in every state, Channel 17, which was the channel that one of their shows were on, would have horror nights, and real late at night every once in a while your parents would let you stay up or you’d have a sleepover.

[22:33] Jason: And you’d watch horror, like these B-rated horror movies.

[22:36] Bobby: I know what you’re talking about.

[22:37] Jason: Like Salem’s Lot.

[22:38] Bobby: But you know what’s cool? Those were not only scary, but they were kind of funny.

[22:43] Jason: They were funny, but, and as a kid, 13 years old.

[22:46] Bobby: Like Toxic Avenger.

[22:48] Jason: Toxic, oh, God, Toxic Avenger.

[22:49] Bobby: I mean, that thing, they probably made it on, with $20,000, but it ended up making millions of dollars, you know? And those people are out of New Jersey.

[22:59] Jason: Yep, cult. There we go, Jersey!

[23:01] Bobby: Jersey, baby.

[23:02] Jason: So speaking of which, do you remember any obscure horror ’80s thing? Not the popular movies, something that you remember that you used to watch.

[23:12] Bobby: I do. Do you remember a movie called Re-Animator?

[23:16] Jason: Yes, good call.

[23:18] Bobby: Re-Animator was one of my all-time favorite horror films of the ’80s, and I still like it today. That movie spawned a few sequels too, which, From Beyond or something. But anyway, Re-Animator was so campy and scary and gory and funny.

[23:37] Bobby: It had everything, and it was definitely B-type film, you know? But it was great. What about you?

[23:43] Jason: I got one. Channel 17, late at night, that UHF station, 11:30, laying down with your blankets in front of the TV ’cause Mom and Dad let you stay down there. Devil Dog: Hound of Hell. No, I swear to God it’s real, if you go to IMDb and you look it up, Devil Dog: Hound of Hell, this one scared the living shit out of me as a kid. I still remember it.

[23:59] Bobby: I missed that one.

[24:09] Jason: It’s up there with Salem’s Lot. Now, you remember Salem’s Lot when they would open it up? And he would come on, like, after that, and I remember watching it, Devil Dog: Hound of Hell. I still remember it in my head as a little kid, that’s Halloween scare shit right there.

[24:24] Bobby: Bro, I got another one, wait.

[24:25] Jason: Hit me.

[24:26] Bobby: This one was definitely a B-type film horror movie from the ’80s, I don’t know if you know this one, but it’s called Motel Hell. Do you know that one?

[24:35] Jason: I don’t know that one.

[24:36] Bobby: The premise of this movie is there’s this motel, do you remember back in the ’70s, ’80s when you were a kid, you’d see those kinda sleazy motels that had all the doors lined up, like single story, kind of a row house of motel doors, like Bates Motel, real creepy. Well, this movie took place in a hotel like that. Motel, I’m sorry. And it’s just a slasher kinda thing, you get a room and next thing you know you’re fighting crazy motherfuckers trying to kill you. It’s not like it’s a great film, but it just made an impact on me. And I remember as a kid, my dad, “I don’t wanna go to a motel, Dad, I do not wanna stay in that motel, ever.”

[25:16] Jason: There you go, yeah.

[25:16] Bobby: Yeah, so it definitely made an impact.

[25:18] Jason: So yeah, so I’m sure everybody out there, this is probably triggering you too, so we’re sorry for the nightmares later on tonight, everybody. All of this scariness and all of this spookiness we’re talking about, we need somebody to bring a little light to make these nightmares go away, I’m telling you.

[25:33] Bobby: It’s been a few weeks, and our little buddy Marlon Dow is back with us. We had a couple interviews and he wasn’t here, but we’re very excited to have that moment with Marlon.

[25:48] Bobby: Hey, little buddy, how you doing?

[25:51] Marlon: In the house.

[25:52] Bobby: Marlon Dow.

[25:53] Jason: Marlon Dow.

[25:54] Bobby: I just love saying your name, it’s like so smooth, you know?

[26:00] Marlon: Well, I’m happy to be here on this fantastic night talking with my boys. And, you know, since we are going with the traditional Halloween special, we got some Halloween special fun facts in the movie genre that are particularly horror.

[26:22] Bobby: Perfect.

[26:24] Bobby: ‘Cause we’ve been talking about horror the entire show, so this is right up the alley.

[26:29] Marlon: Okay, I gotta ask a question though, I wanna know, Jason, what was your favorite horror film?

[26:38] Jason: My absolute favorite horror film back in the ’80s? You mean the one that scared me the most, or the one that was, like, my favorite rawr rawr one?

[26:47] Marlon: I want your favorite rawr rawr.

[26:49] Jason: Oh, man, Nightmare on Elm Street, just ’cause it just had so much going on.

[26:55] Bobby: Yeah, that’s a classic.

[26:57] Marlon: That is a classic. Okay, Mr. Catalanotto, what was your favorite horror film?

[27:02] Bobby: You know, there’s so many that I love, it’s hard to pick one, but I remember one, it was 1982, The Thing.

[27:11] Bobby: I forgot about The Thing. Do you remember The Thing? That thing was creepy as hell. So what about you?

[27:17] Marlon: That is, my friend, a John Carpenter classic.

[27:23] Bobby: Now what about you, and simple, what about you?

[27:26] Marlon: My all-time favorite horror film, it wasn’t a commercial success, but it was a house favorite, and it was Phantasm.

[27:38] Bobby: I remember that, I remember Phantasm too, oh, that’s triggering me, that’s a good one.

[27:44] Marlon: Yeah, and the guy who played the Tall Man, Angus Scrimm, one of the guys that really scared the crap out of me, he just passed away actually, he was a legend in the horror film genre.

[28:00] Bobby: Rest in peace.

[28:02] Marlon: Rest in peace.

[28:04] Bobby: So I have a trivia for you and Jason I wanna throw out there. So in 1987, an unknown director made a horror film called Bad Taste. Who was that director?

[28:24] Marlon: Red paste? Is that what you said?

[28:26] Bobby: No, bad taste.

[28:31] Jason: No, the only person would know would be you, Marlon, not me.

[28:35] Marlon: I’m stumped, I’m completely stumped.

[28:37] Bobby: You guys know this director, he’s so famous. And this was one of his first films. His name is Peter Jackson.

[28:39] Bobby: From Lord of the Rings. Yeah, bro, he started out with a horror movie.

[28:54] Marlon: Wow, I’m not one to get stumped in film history, but Bobby, you got me, I gotta research that after we go our separate ways tonight. I’m impressed.

[29:07] Jason: Yes, I’m impressed you stumped Marlon.

[29:08] Bobby: That’s difficult to do. So what else you got for us?

[29:13] Marlon: Speaking of, I got some horror film fun facts. Even I didn’t know this, but do you remember the movie Hannibal?

[29:25] Jason: Oh, yeah, of course.

[29:27] Jason: Red Dragon and Hannibal, right? I know the one.

[29:31] Marlon: With the legendary Anthony Hopkins, that actually is the highest grossing film in the horror genre of all time.

[29:39] Bobby: I didn’t know that.

[29:40] Jason: I didn’t know that either.

[29:40] Bobby: Wow, you know, that movie was scary, man, when he had that mask on, that thing they put on his face, he was so diabolical, he was great.

[29:52] Jason: Yeah, iconic.

[29:53] Marlon: I got another one for you, this is absolutely fascinating. Jaws is the highest grossing series, horror series of all time, with 1.52 billion dollars.

[30:06] Bobby: Wow, man, listen, guys, do not go into the water.

[30:13] Jason: Sometimes it pays to listen when they tell you.

[30:15] Bobby: Yeah, but you know what’s cool about Jaws? I was in Universal Studios, and they actually still have the set, they have a lake there where they shot that film, and the lake is still there, and the buildings are there, and they have a fake Jaws, a robotic Jaws going around in the lake.

[30:31] Jason: So if you wanna relive your childhood terrors.

[30:34] Bobby: Yeah, bro, just go there, go to Universal Studios in Hollywood and you will see Jaws.

[30:40] Marlon: Yeah, that’s got to be in my top 10 favorite films of all time. And here’s my next one, this is great. Friday the 13th has the most sequels of any horror film, as of even the 2009 reboot, it has the most series of any horror film in the history of film.

[31:04] Bobby: How many are there? There’s gotta be, like, eight or nine, right?

[31:08] Marlon: More than that, I think.

[31:10] Bobby: It’s a shitload.

[31:10] Marlon: No, no, no, it’s 19.

[31:14] Bobby: Holy shit, that’s including the reboot?

[31:18] Bobby: That is insane.

[31:20] Jason: Talk about, and imagine how profitable that is.

[31:23] Bobby: Man, talk about milking the cow.

[31:26] Marlon: Talk about, remember, there’s also Jason versus Predator.

[31:30] Marlon: There’s so many they have done, man.

[31:33] Bobby: I remember those, they were more recent.

[31:37] Jason: My money’s on the Predator.

[31:40] Marlon: Also, here’s another one on the Friday the 13th genre, Jason has the most recorded kills, of 157.

[31:51] Bobby: Oh, man. You know, Jason, I always knew you were a bad dude, why are you killing everybody?

[31:57] Marlon: Isn’t that the coolest you’ve ever seen, man?

[31:59] Bobby: It is, man.

[32:00] Marlon: And speaking of Nightmare on Elm Street, it earns the award for the most gallons of fake blood used in a film, 500 gallons of fake blood they used for that.

[32:12] Bobby: Oh, man, and they killed off Johnny Depp, right? They used a lot of blood there.

[32:17] Jason: That whole room, the ceiling and everything.

[32:19] Bobby: Oh, man, that’s great, I never knew that.

[32:26] Marlon: Okay, and I have one last one for you, this is great. The first horror movie, we’re talking about horror, was a movie called The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, and this was the first horror film, in 1920. Now, the silent film genre was between 1894 and 1929, talkies didn’t start till 1928. And this was the first horror film ever, and that was in 1920.

[32:57] Bobby: So that started the horror film genre.

[33:01] Jason: And it was a silent film.

[33:03] Bobby: That’s interesting, wow, that’s interesting.

[33:05] Marlon: That is very interesting, it’s really wild, right? Isn’t that great? And not to mention, now there was horror films before it, but this was the first commercial success for a horror film.

[33:13] Bobby: Right. Yeah, I knew that Universal Studios was big in the ’40s and the ’50s and the ’60s with all the classics, the Frankensteins, the Draculas.

[33:19] Jason: Right, Bela Lugosi.

[33:19] Bobby: You know, the Creature from the Black Lagoon.

[33:28] Bobby: Which is a classic.

[33:30] Marlon: Yeah, Bob, you got some really great classic posters that I know that you own, and I know that you love that genre also.

[33:39] Bobby: I do. Do you have any memories as a kid, what kind of costumes did you dress up as, and trick-or-treating as a young boy?

[33:51] Marlon: Well, for me, my first one that I remember, I think I was about 13, and my first costume that I remember actually really liking was I was the Devil. I had a mask that had horns, and I had a red, like a footy, which is like a one piece you kind of put your feet in.

[34:20] Bobby: Bro, that’s great, Marlon Dell in West Philly in a onesie.

[34:29] Jason: You know something else, Marlon? We actually had a lot of questions this week with Halloween coming on, and we answered one a little earlier in the show, him and I, to get your opinion on it is, on the show, what do you remember, like what did you dress up as, and is there any memories that you remember from the Halloween shows in particular from being on the show?

[34:52] Marlon: Well, let me see, I know that I dressed as a Caucasian male. Which is, you know, it was a complex suit up, but we, I got it done, and I was an Italian white man, I’m not sure who he was, or I was.

[35:19] Bobby: Sunglasses, you know, well, I could tell you, man, you looked great.

[35:27] Jason: Yeah, you couldn’t tell the difference really right there.

[35:31] Marlon: Well, you know, the best part about dressing up as Bob was I, ’cause I am a performer, I danced like he did, I had the mannerisms.

[35:43] Marlon: And I had the rhythm of Bobby Catalano, I really embodied the whole spirit.

[35:51] Jason: Yeah, I remember that. Is there anything else you remember from the shows? We were talking about how Andy used to always dress up as Dracula.

[35:59] Bobby: Yeah, he was always Dracula.

[36:02] Jason: Do you remember anything in particular?

[36:06] Marlon: Well, I’m wracking my brain here.

[36:10] Bobby: Yeah, you know what, Marlon, you were looking at all the girls, man, you don’t remember anything.

[36:18] Marlon: So, well, what am I forgetting?

[36:22] Bobby: I have no idea.

[36:23] Jason: I have no idea either, we just thought maybe you might have remembered something.

[36:26] Bobby: I just remember that Andy did the Dracula, and we all dressed up as each other. And Jason said he had dressed up one year as the Coneheads with Joe White.

[36:37] Jason: Did that one, yeah.

[36:38] Bobby: And that one I don’t remember.

[36:43] Marlon: But you guys were the Coneheads?

[36:45] Jason: Yeah, me and Joe were Coneheads in togas, I don’t know why I remember that.

[36:48] Bobby: Yeah, I must have missed that one. Okay, little buddy man, thank you for coming on the show, it’s been a few weeks, and we really did miss you, and I’m so happy we got you back.

[37:03] Marlon: Yeah, it’s been a blast, guys, I can’t wait till the following week.

[37:07] Bobby: Be aware of those killer clowns too.

[37:09] Jason: Yeah, bro, watch out for the killer clowns, do not approach them.

[37:14] Marlon: Speaking of the killer clowns, you guys should see Killer Clowns from Outer Space, it’s a great film.

[37:19] Bobby: I remember that, I remember that, that’s a classic B film from the ’80s.

[37:29] Jason: Thanks for the memory right there.

[37:31] Bobby: Yeah, all right, homie, go relax and we’ll be in touch. You take care.

[37:35] Jason: Take it easy, Marlon, have a good Halloween.

[37:37] Marlon: All right, guys, take care, be safe, later.

[37:39] Bobby: Thanks, take care, brother.

[37:41] Jason: Marlon always makes it all better, doesn’t he?

[37:44] Bobby: He does, and he always brings a lot of great trivia that stumps us, but I stumped him today.

[37:49] Jason: It’s just great talking to him. Talking to you and talking to him is just like, I feel like if the listeners are enjoying it, we’re enjoying it just as much.

[37:58] Bobby: And we’re all buds.

[37:59] Jason: You know, it’s just like the same conversations and stuff that we’ve been having since we were 15, 16 years old.

[38:05] Jason: We’re still having the conversations.

[38:08] Bobby: We’re like 15 years old in our heart.

[38:11] Jason: Well, I’m gonna read the email a little later, but first, this is quickly becoming one of the most popular parts of the podcast.

[38:18] Bobby: Which is what?

[38:19] Jason: The email bag jingle.

[38:22] Jason: Here we go, let’s get the piano going.

[38:27] Bobby: I’m on strike.

[38:29] Jason: No, you’re not, come on.

[38:29] Bobby: I am on strike.

[38:31] Jason: Come on, I got a piano player going.

[38:32] Bobby: All right, the email bag, it’s time for the email bag. A little more? No, I’m done, I’m done. Read the damn email.

[38:41] Jason: No, you gotta read the comments first, dude.

[38:43] Bobby: Well, then why did I read the damn jingle for the email bag when I’m reading comments?

[38:49] Bobby: So you can do it again. Okay, here we go. We have some comments. First one is from Marcy Sims, who’s been a listener from the beginning.

[38:58] Jason: Hello, Marcy.

[38:59] Bobby: What’s up, Marcy? She says, “This show was awesome with William Katt. You guys are killing it.”

[39:09] Jason: Yeah, just like the clowns, baby.

[39:13] Bobby: Thank you, Marcy. Next comment is from Bobby Dyrich. She says, “Great, I will be singing that song all day now.” She’s talking about the theme song from The Greatest American Hero. She says, “Laughing out loud, I loved this show.”

[39:33] Jason: There you go, now go ahead everybody, think about it right now, come on.

[39:36] Bobby: Believe it or not.

[39:38] Bobby: There you go, there you go, you sound pretty good there, Jay.

[39:40] Jason: Thanks, pal.

[39:41] Bobby: Next one is from Jennifer Doran Hartwick, she’s been around watching, listening for a long time. She says, “My eight-year-old self loved him, William Katt, and then we had to learn the damn theme song in sixth grade.” So yeah, William’s getting a lot of love, man.

[40:04] Bobby: They love Mr. Katt.

[40:05] Jason: They love Mr. Katt, we love him too.

[40:07] Bobby: I have one more, it’s a bonus one.

[40:09] Bobby: This is from a guy, his name is Emerson Bixby, new listener. He says, “The Greatest American Hero was one of my father’s very favorite shows. He kept telling me to watch it, and when I did, I was instantly addicted. William was so great also in Man From Earth, and I’m very happy to see he’s coming back to do the sequel, Holocene.” So yeah, that’s awesome, man.

[40:36] Jason: Holocene.

[40:36] Bobby: Holocene, let me get that right, ’cause Eric might be, “Bobby, why you glitching out my movie?” So, what do you got, Jay?

[40:45] Jason: I’ve got a fabulous email. So I get to read the email today.

[40:48] Jason: So this is from Arlene Smith, and she says, “Believe it or not, I used to love that show, and unlike you guys with your Farrah Fawcett posters, I did have a Greatest American Hero poster.” Well, Arlene, good for you. “I actually saw him at a convention once, and he is the nicest, most gracious person.”

[41:12] Bobby: That’s awesome.

[41:13] Jason: “You two did an amazing job. I love listening to Bobby and Jason, two of my ’80s idols, interview William Katt, another ’80s superhero idol. I can’t wait to hear more. Hey Bobby, can you sing a little more? Swoon.”

[41:29] Bobby: Oh my God, listen, I am not a singer, Jason is the singer, I’m just the voice. I do not sing.

[41:38] Jason: We’ll get him, people, we’ll get him. She even put a little swoon in there. “Love you guys, thank you for making my Thursday feel as exciting as a Saturday night.”

[41:48] Bobby: That was great.

[41:49] Jason: Arlene, you are welcome.

[41:52] Bobby: Thank you very much, that was a great email.

[41:54] Jason: Can you do the end of the email bag song real quick?

[41:57] Bobby: I won’t, I am protesting, I am on strike.

[42:01] Jason: I’m trying, people.

[42:02] Bobby: And it’s over. Oh man, we had a great time, man, today’s show, the Halloween show, was a blast.

[42:10] Jason: You did a fantastic job up front, too.

[42:12] Bobby: So did you, I loved the intro, it was fun. I hope that Vincent Price, if he’s up there in the heavens.

[42:19] Jason: Oh, I don’t know about that.

[42:20] Bobby: I hope that he’s listening and he appreciated and he thought I did okay.

[42:24] Jason: Well, let’s try this then. “Okay, Robert Catalano, it is now time for you to count and show the kids that it is okay to be smart, and know your numbers and enjoy your Halloween. So please take us out.”

[42:42] Bobby: Party people, this podcast will self-destruct in five, four, three, two, one. Boom, it’s over. Take care, everybody.

[42:47] Bobby: All right, have a good one.